These days, "four people in Sweden write all the songs in the world".
Peter Cetera, former frontman of US rock band Chicago, is reminiscing over the phone from his home in Idaho, US, about a time gone by when pop songs were written by the people who performed them.
He would know.
Cetera's written most of the hits that Chicago, the group he left in 1985, is still known for, including You're The Inspiration and Hard To Say I'm Sorry.
The singer will be in Singapore next month to perform at The Star Performing Arts Centre.
While some of these great songs will be part of his repertoire, Cetera, 68, has never looked back, not joining Chicago on stage even once for a reunion.
"What's very strange is that I've actually been out of the group longer than I was in the group," Cetera told LOUD over the phone two weeks ago.
He left Chicago because of a difference in opinion over the group's busy touring schedules and his own solo career, which he had started in 1981 with a self-titled album.